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Marvel Comics Said To Be Experiencing A Heap Of Trouble (Comic Book Forums)



Author Marvel Comics Said To Be Experiencing A Heap Of Trouble
Posted: September 7, 2017 8:15:16 pm
While Marvel may certainly be dominating at the box office, it could be argued that things haven’t gone as well for them in recent years on the comic book side. To put it mildly, fans have become frustrated with the publisher’s decision to replace their favorite heroes with younger characters, the controversial move to make Captain America an agent of Hydra, and the massive dump that the House of Ideas has taken on its “first family,” the Fantastic Four.
According to a Marvel intern who’s now voiced his concerns and is operating under the name of “The Whisperer,” the situation is becoming pretty dire. Not surprisingly, there’s a push by Marvel big wigs to get back to meat and potatoes as it were, but they risk putting themselves on a slippery slope by casting aside diversity characters.

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Posted: September 8, 2017 2:51:11 am
SECRET RECORDING OF MARVEL EXECUTIVE MEETING, CIRCA 2010. . .

EXEC #1: I had an idea last night. Let's shift our focus to a SMALLER fan base and forget about the majority of our loyal customers. Thoughts?
EXEC #2: Well. . .
EXEC #3: Err. . .
EXEC #1: Great! LET'S DO THIS!

Last edited September 8, 2017 2:52:45 am
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Posted: September 8, 2017 10:32:52 am
One thing that seems to not get mentioned much is that a lot of the stories are too long and not good. You essentially get 1-2 silver age comics worth of information spread out in 6 issues now so it will fit in a trade. You know what else will fit in a trade? 6 really good stories.

When I go back and read an Amazing Spider-Man from the silver age it's just so refreshing to read a STORY that has comic book elements (i.e. villains talking in third-person, banter while fighting, powers getting explained out loud to an enemy...) instead of today's ASM which seems to be comic book elements first and then a loosely strung together story that goes on too long.

I can't read any Marvel/DC superhero books anymore. All the other stuff like renumbering, re-branding ... it's silly but I'd still read it if it were good. I"ll just stick to indies from now on.

Posted: September 8, 2017 11:26:05 am
Marvel has to figure out that their comic book fans are not exactly the same as their movie/TV fans. Feel free to pander to the casual watcher, but stop pissing off your long-time readers. When will they realize this? Dummy's!!
Posted: September 8, 2017 12:47:57 pm
brucifer said:
Marvel has to figure out that their comic book fans are not exactly the same as their movie/TV fans. Feel free to pander to the casual watcher, but stop pissing off your long-time readers. When will they realize this? Dummy's!!


I think you are right on there. Personally I enjoy watching the Marvel movies, but that is really my only connection or interest in Marvel. Same with the X-Men animated series, i watched it everyday and even had VHS tapes of my favorite episodes, but i only have one issue of X-men is my pile that i just got last week.
Posted: September 9, 2017 1:59:26 am
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Posted: September 14, 2017 9:39:00 am
Marvel's VP of marketing made a comment like this publicly several months ago and then the Marvel brass came down and they had to "clarify the comments". However it was clear, the main characters are unrecognizable. Personally, I hardly buy any Marvel comics anymore because I simply dont care about these new characters.

Across the board, this initiative to bring in younger diverse readers failed.
Posted: September 14, 2017 1:46:50 pm
Thanks for all the great stories Marvel. It was nice knowing you. RIP.
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Posted: September 15, 2017 12:41:02 pm
I guess Marvel blames the deplorables. And that includes me. Laughing
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Posted: September 15, 2017 2:03:47 pm
See everyone, Marvel is learning!

http://www.cbr.com/marvel-venom-inc/

This is what everyone loves, buying issues of another comic just to get a full story. Right?? Didn't everyone love that??

What fucking morons....
Posted: September 15, 2017 3:59:25 pm
By doing the exact opposite of what they said they would do...Brick wall Brick wall
I have a feeling by next summer Disney will be looking to sell off the publishing rights for all their characters, just not sure if they will all go to one publisher or sold individually to the highest bidder, and putting an end to the Marvel Universe as we know it.
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Posted: October 11, 2017 5:36:39 pm
From what I've researched, Marvel isn't doing any worse than DC or Image. Marvel has encountered problems far before they became more inclusive in their story telling, which is why Disney was able to purchase them those years ago (and Crossgen comics for that matter).

Supposedly, the true culprits behind Marvel's woes are:

1. The Comic Book Industry in general has been facing challenges the past decade -
2. Digital media and animated media are taking more attention away from comic books.
3. Many comic book readers are still able to rip comic books for free and collect without paying for them.
4. The Comic Book Industry at large is diluted with smaller publishers who come and go much quicker than the Big 2 (or 3 if you count Image Comics).

Image Comics has had diversity portrayed in their books since day 1. Marvel Comics had already portrayed diversity since X-Men first began. DC had caught up on diversifying their characters, and it hasn't hampered them much either.

Blaming the challenges of a great publisher like Marvel Comics on the display of Gay, Black, Latino, or Female Characters is pretty inaccurate and sort of an excuse for the fact that the Comics Industry faces external challenges that it was always at risk of facing because of the direction of media, advancing technology, and the growing short-term attention spans of media viewers like ourselves.

Barnes & Nobles, previously the world's largest book retailer, are shutting down locations everywhere. Blockbuster died because of Red Box / Netflix. Media changes, and people prefer to watch something over reading something. It's how the human mind works.

Also, I hate to say this, but Marvel does need to create new characters and stop re-creating the same ones or revamping old stories. How many Infinity Gauntlets are there going to be? Is Onslaught going to return a fourth time now? Some characters already told their story. Peter Parker is STILL a TEENAGER? Dang man...

Marvel, DC, and even Image can't let go of characters who already had their prime past them. They are hoping to bank off their classic characters as much as possible before the buzz burns out (which it will, it always does). They need to invest in brand new characters with new story-lines, and not try to revive the 80's or 90's which have already passed. Yes, it's a risk, yes you may lose some readers, but you will gain more in time, and you will have new characters to celebrate.
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Posted: October 12, 2017 3:14:43 pm
DocManhattan said:
The Comic Book Industry at large is diluted with smaller publishers who come and go much quicker than the Big 2 (or 3 if you count Image Comics).


I don't know but I welcome small publishers. In fact IDW sales have been very successful since their launch and they may not have as many titles as DC/Marvel but they have up the competition.

DocManhattan said:
Some characters already told their story. Peter Parker is STILL a TEENAGER? Dang man...


No he's not. Peter Parker, the one I followed back from the 70s-90s eventually married Mary Jane and had finished college. Anyone remember the Christmas issue where Parker got evicted from his apartment? He was facing real adult issues in the 90s.

But the difference back then and now was that it took hundreds of issues to even get to that point. The storylines progressed naturally and Parker’s changes felt natural and real. It all flowed together because the writers would stick around for a much longer arc. Today what happens is that Marvel decides to quit a book, start off with another series and issue #1 and then introduce us to the same character but with changes that would make them seem like they belong in an entirely different universe (Parker Industries).
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