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Mr.Grimm
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- Posted: May 3, 2017 9:51:59 pm
amacd003 said:
So its possible that the CA 0.75 NS was convoluted with the test market price variants (as an example) either by mistake or purposely? Could there be another purpose other than a cash grab? Last year I saw a New Mutants #98 sold for $3000 because it was an Australian $ NS variant (literally just said AUS in the price box). Again, very low print run etc etc. These may not be seen as proper variants by some and can get very confusing outside the North America scope. Perhaps if the comic collectors communities from 'X' country want to see these as valid variants they can do so within their own markets.
These 75 cent variants were sold in the USA. I personally bought them off the spinning racks in Blain, Wa, Sumas, Wa, Bellingham WA. Those are in fact price variants if their sold in both countries. Back then they didn't play the marketing games like they do today. Don't be deceived by that $3000. It's rumored they made the bids themselves to increase the profile of the Australian issues. I Believe POP culture is a North American thing (Just my opinion).
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amacd003
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- Posted: May 14, 2017 12:39:50 am
Mr.Grimm said:amacd003 said:
So its possible that the CA 0.75 NS was convoluted with the test market price variants (as an example) either by mistake or purposely? Could there be another purpose other than a cash grab? Last year I saw a New Mutants #98 sold for $3000 because it was an Australian $ NS variant (literally just said AUS in the price box). Again, very low print run etc etc. These may not be seen as proper variants by some and can get very confusing outside the North America scope. Perhaps if the comic collectors communities from 'X' country want to see these as valid variants they can do so within their own markets. These 75 cent variants were sold in the USA. I personally bought them off the spinning racks in Blain, Wa, Sumas, Wa, Bellingham WA. Those are in fact price variants if their sold in both countries. Back then they didn't play the marketing games like they do today. Don't be deceived by that $3000. It's rumored they made the bids themselves to increase the profile of the Australian issues. I Believe POP culture is a North American thing (Just my opinion).
Not really, most western countries have adopted American Pop culture along side their own over time. Speaking strictly in terms of desirability for low print run anything comic book as collectables, it seems that this forum has become a circular argument imo. If the mods don't want to add the books, np, it's their world.
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Mr.Grimm
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- Posted: May 31, 2017 2:14:17 pm
amacd003 said:Mr.Grimm said:amacd003 said:
So its possible that the CA 0.75 NS was convoluted with the test market price variants (as an example) either by mistakes ke or purposely? Could there be another purpose other than a cash grab? Last year I saw a New Mutants #98 sold for $3000 because it was an Australian $ NS variant (literally just said AUS in the price box). Again, very low print run etc etc. These may not be seen as proper variants by some and can get very confusing outside the North America scope. Perhaps if the comic collectors communities from 'X' country want to see these as valid variants they can do so within their own markets. These 75 cent variants were sold in the USA. I personally bought theim off the spinning racks in Blain, Wa, Sumas, Wa, Bellingham WA. Those are in fact price variants if their sold in both countries. Back then they didn't play the marketing games like they do today. Don't be deceived by that $3000. It's rumored they made the bids themselves to increase the profile of the Australian issues. I Believe POP culture is a North American thing (Just my opinion). Not really, most western countries have adopted American Pop culture along side their own over time. Speaking strictly in terms of desirability for low print run anything comic book as collectables, it seems that this forum has become a circular argument imo. If the mods don't want to add the books, np, it's their world.
Ya the guys were trying to raise the profile, buy bidding on their own book to raise the profile. Other countries don't share our heritage, just because they admire our culture doesn't mean they are part of American culture. I've been around the world, and Australia IS NOT American culture. My family came here in 1632. Australians don't share our culture.
What's wrong with your Australian heritage, why is ours so important to you. American culture means American, not who wishes they were
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- Posted: June 1, 2017 2:34:18 am
Mr.Grimm said:amacd003 said:Mr.Grimm said:amacd003 said:
So its possible that the CA 0.75 NS was convoluted with the test market price variants (as an example) either by mistakes ke or purposely? Could there be another purpose other than a cash grab? Last year I saw a New Mutants #98 sold for $3000 because it was an Australian $ NS variant (literally just said AUS in the price box). Again, very low print run etc etc. These may not be seen as proper variants by some and can get very confusing outside the North America scope. Perhaps if the comic collectors communities from 'X' country want to see these as valid variants they can do so within their own markets. These 75 cent variants were sold in the USA. I personally bought theim off the spinning racks in Blain, Wa, Sumas, Wa, Bellingham WA. Those are in fact price variants if their sold in both countries. Back then they didn't play the marketing games like they do today. Don't be deceived by that $3000. It's rumored they made the bids themselves to increase the profile of the Australian issues. I Believe POP culture is a North American thing (Just my opinion). Not really, most western countries have adopted American Pop culture along side their own over time. Speaking strictly in terms of desirability for low print run anything comic book as collectables, it seems that this forum has become a circular argument imo. If the mods don't want to add the books, np, it's their world. Ya the guys were trying to raise the profile, buy bidding on their own book to raise the profile. Other countries don't share our heritage, just because they admire our culture doesn't mean they are part of American culture. I've been around the world, and Australia IS NOT American culture. My family came here in 1632. Australians don't share our culture.What's wrong with your Australian heritage, why is ours so important to you. American culture means American, not who wishes they were
What?? I hope I can help you understand what my first sentence meant a little better. I am speaking in terms of POP CULTURE not culture\culture. More importantly, It had nothing to do with heritage... at all... American 'heritage' means nothing to us...literally nothing... same goes for the culture. But POP culture is some of America's greatest exports like music, fashion, food annnnd comic books! Did you have your eyes open when you did your world tour? If so, you would have noticed not only American influences in other westernised countries but influences from other western countries including Canada, you know, where you are from ( you are quite the patriot for a Canadian)!?!? I was born in Canada and moved to AUS later on. I have a full understanding of how 2 countries can grow up together, have separate cultures, yet still influence each other.
I don't really care how that book's value reached 3000$. I was citing it as an example. I especially don't care how it's value was hiked up when based on rumours and conjecture as you say it was.
Please read my posts a little more carefully before you retort with whatever that was..... Now back to the comics!!!
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- Posted: June 2, 2017 12:35:45 pm
amacd003 said:Mr.Grimm said:amacd003 said:Mr.Grimm said:amacd003 said:
So its possible that the CA 0.75 NS was convoluted with the test market price variants (as an example) either by mistakes ke or purposely? Could there be another purpose other than a cash grab? Last year I saw a New Mutants #98 sold for $3000 because it was an Australian $ NS variant (literally just said AUS in the price box). Again, very low print run etc etc. These may not be seen as proper variants by some and can get very confusing outside the North America scope. Perhaps if the comic collectors communities from 'X' country want to see these as valid variants they can do so within their own markets. These 75 cent variants were sold in the USA. I personally bought theim off the spinning racks in Blain, Wa, Sumas, Wa, Bellingham WA. Those are in fact price variants if their sold in both countries. Back then they didn't play the marketing games like they do today. Don't be deceived by that $3000. It's rumored they made the bids themselves to increase the profile of the Australian issues. I Believe POP culture is a North American thing (Just my opinion). Not really, most western countries have adopted American Pop culture along side their own over time. Speaking strictly in terms of desirability for low print run anything comic book as collectables, it seems that this forum has become a circular argument imo. If the mods don't want to add the books, np, it's their world. Ya the guys were trying to raise the profile, buy bidding on their own book to raise the profile. Other countries don't share our heritage, just because they admire our culture doesn't mean they are part of American culture. I've been around the world, and Australia IS NOT American culture. My family came here in 1632. Australians don't share our culture.What's wrong with your Australian heritage, why is ours so important to you. American culture means American, not who wishes they were What?? I hope I can help you understand what my first sentence meant a little better. I am speaking in terms of POP CULTURE not culture\culture. More importantly, It had nothing to do with heritage... at all... American 'heritage' means nothing to us...literally nothing... same goes for the culture. But POP culture is some of America's greatest exports like music, fashion, food annnnd comic books! Did you have your eyes open when you did your world tour? If so, you would have noticed not only American influences in other westernised countries but influences from other western countries including Canada, you know, where you are from ( you are quite the patriot for a Canadian)!?!? I was born in Canada and moved to AUS later on. I have a full understanding of how 2 countries can grow up together, have separate cultures, yet still influence each other. I don't really care how that book's value reached 3000$. I was citing it as an example. I especially don't care how it's value was hiked up when based on rumours and conjecture as you say it was. Please read my posts a little more carefully before you retort with whatever that was..... Now back to the comics!!!
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- Posted: June 3, 2017 3:24:22 pm
- So not even Newsstand error issues? like with the new DC oops? The Batman/Flash cross-over of 21, and 22 of each series newsstand copies were printed with the 3.99 cover price instead of the 2.99 standard cover price. they acknowledged it, cut the run, but made no corrections, so it is what it is, but that can't be submitted? kind of the same deal as with Justice League 51, and Green Lantern 9 oops
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- Posted: June 11, 2017 1:05:34 pm
Azzorox said:So not even Newsstand error issues? like with the new DC oops? The Batman/Flash cross-over of 21, and 22 of each series newsstand copies were printed with the 3.99 cover price instead of the 2.99 standard cover price. they acknowledged it, cut the run, but made no corrections, so it is what it is, but that can't be submitted? kind of the same deal as with Justice League 51, and Green Lantern 9 oops
a little follow up, I finally uncovered the rest of the story. the Newsstand oops was not caught until part 4 was being printed, and while they did not issue a corrected run, they did call back, and destroy a ton of Flash 22 Newsstand copies. So, A) the Newsstand copies of Batman, and Flash 21, 22 are errors, B) being Newsstand, they are rare, and C) The Flash 22 Newsstand is extremely rare of the 4 oops
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- Posted: June 13, 2017 11:51:49 am
- That one wasn't a Newsstand copy, it was a normal cover direct edition. I actually reviewed that listing back when it was active. The seller assumed that the normal cover was the newsstand cover, and not the cover price error, note that in the listing, The picture of the item reads Direct Edition, and 2.99 on cover,
the actual Newsstand error has only had one sold listing at VF+ for $12 with the fact that it is also 21 of this series, as well as Batman 21, and 22, all 4 parts were screwed up in Newsstand production, having the wrong graphics file sent to the press for these copies.
Trust me, I have done quite a bit of follow up research on this one, after having to jump through a dozen hoops to find a copy of Flash 22 still on the stands after visiting, and calling every bookstore, and newsstand vendor in the majority of my State
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